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Burma Threatens Thailand's stability: Bangkok Govenor


By SIMON ROUGHNEEN Wednesday, December 9, 2009

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BANGKOK — Speaking at a dinner talk on Tuesday night, Bangkok Gov. M.R. Sukhumbhand Paribatra said that Thailand's already precarious stability faces additional pressure from its neighbor Burma.

Addressing a forum at the Bangkok Sheraton Grande Hotel, the Democrat Party deputy secretary-general and former deputy foreign minister said, “A major source of regional instability is the large standing army maintained by the Myanmar [Burmese] government.”

Bangkok governor M.R. Sukhumbhand Paribatra. (Source: Facebook)

He compared Thailand's 430,000-strong military with Burma's, which has been estimated at more than 500,000 and is thought to be the largest standing army in Southeast Asia.

Commenting on the Burmese junta's attempts to upgrade and expand its military, Paribatra said, “Myanmar [Burma] has been modernizing [its military] for a long time, and this could fuel a regional arms race.”

Thailand spends less than 5 percent of its gross domestic product (GDP) on defense, he said, while the military dictatorship in Naypidaw is thought to allocate around one-third of the country's GDP to military spending.

Accurate figures for Burma's military spending are not available, but several organizations including the Soros Foundation believe that around 40 percent of Burma's GDP is spent on the military.

Thailand is about to start a military modernization program based on two five-year procurement and upgrade phases, according to Paribatra. Thailand's defense spending as a proportion of GDP has declined relative to the rest of southeast Asia in recent years.

The increasingly close relationship between the Burmese junta and the Communist regime in North Korea is also causing concern in Thailand. Both sides are collaborating on conventional military means  and rumors circulate that Naypyidaw is seeking Pyongyang's assistance in developing some form of nuclear capability. North Korea itself tested nuclear weapons in early 2009.

Focusing on domestic Burmese politics, Paribatra said that the lack of national reconciliation in Burma would mean continued violence and instability, especially in the borderlands where ethnic minorities live. This would lead to more displacement, and, inevitably, Thailand would receive additional refugees coming in to the north. More than 130,000 Burmese refugees already live in camps along northern Thailand's border with Burma.

The Burmese junta's armed forces attacked the ethnic Kokang militia in northern Shan State close to the Chinese border in late August, causing 37,000 refugees to flee to China. It was suggested that this was a prelude to a wider assault on ethnic minority groups.

Militias representing the 17 “cease-fire groups” have been ordered to become border guard forces that would be part of the junta state security apparatus. However, most have either refused or ignored the request, prompting speculation that the junta's growing and well-equipped forces will attack the recalcitrant ethnic militias before and possibly after the planned 2010 national elections.

Paribatra likened the internal displacement situation in Burma to that of Sudan's western Darfur region, where government forces and allied militias have carried out what the US believes to be genocide since early 2003.

Another source of concern for Thailand is the Burmese drug trade, he said. UN figures show Burma produced an estimated 410 tons of opium in 2008 (enough to make 40 tons of heroin), making the country the world's second-largest producer after Afghanistan, which accounts for 90 percent of world output. Burma is also a major source for methamphetamine, much of which is trafficked to Thailand from northern Shan State.

Despite the concerns, Thailand has an ambivalent relationship with Burma. Economists believe the Thai economy depends on cheap Burmese labor provided by an estimated 3 million Burmese migrants.

He said gas piped from the Shwe Field helps meet Thailand's electricity needs even though Burmese citizens frequently go without power, and this despite long-standing allegations that junta forces have perpetrated atrocities and human rights violations in the vicinity of the Yadana Pipeline, which carries the gas south to Thailand.

Thailand is also involved in a highly controversial project to build dams on the Salween River, less than 50 km from the Thai-Burma border–though this has been hit by recent fall-off in Thailand electricity needs.



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plan B Wrote:
18/12/2009
Derek Tonkin,

Will you please comment on the military expenditure of the SPDC in terms of GDP, GNP and a straight budget since we are on this subject.
There has been a slew of unproven figures, some as nefarious as 40 percent plus.
Thank you in advance.

plan B Wrote:
16/12/2009
If ever there was a shameless "jumping on Bash-A-Junta" to acquire publicity and recognition, you are witnessing the example.
1)The SPDC's atrocious behavior contributed well to the Thai economy by:
a) Giving Thailand various concessions through partnerships as well as outright selling of Myanmar's future.
b) Providing Thailand with a staple of cheap labor and aid in dollars through the refugees and immigrants.
2) Justifying the inherently anti-Burmese nature of Thai attitudes since the sacking of Ayutthaya.
Now after enjoying the benefit of the West's sanctions, second only to China, Paribatra has an epiphany on his road to fame and fortune.
Please do us a favor—if you really believe what you said prove it by treating the refugees and immigrants fairly first.
As for the Man Friday expats, jumping on praising foreigners has become a means to an end.
An end that serve nobody but their status quo that does not benefit the citizenry of Myanmar beyond absolving these foreigners' transgression against the Burmese.

Saw Dennis Wrote:
13/12/2009
Three cheers for Honorable Paribatra, a person with clear vision, among Thai leaders, and moral courage, to point out the dangerous antics going on in a neighboring country. No one knows how much the junta is spending on its armed forces, but the non-military spending is evidently small. It can't be any more than 30 percent of the yearly budget. The junta, its generals and cronies probably cannot pocket more than 20 percent of the budget, so that leaves 40 percent of the budget for the junta to spend on the military, widespread human rights violations and keeping the restless population under the lid.

There has been news about the junta's nuclear ambition but whether it attempts to produce a nuclear device on its own or acquire it through purchase, it would be a very expensive proportion for a country like Burma. At the same time it would have to develop a delivery system, that could be as expensive as a nuclear device. It is time those who just would like to softsoap the junta,to stop and think.

Bwanyunt Wrote:
11/12/2009
Thailand has been in the military expansion stage since the cold war era and received billions of dollars worth of military hardware.

They also participated in the civil wars in neighbouring countries directly and indirectly. The neighbouring countries are in fact very tolerant of Thai's poor attitude & misdeeds toward them in the past.

All the insurgency on the Thai-Myanmar border was backed by them in the past and the number of IDP is partly the responsibility of that country including CIA.

Every one now knows that SSA-S is backed by the Thai Army & CIA under cover of an anti-narcotics campaign. I find that Thailand will suffer for their ill deeds toward their neighbours in future. Just look at Thai south, they are feeling very uneasy with such an insurgnecy. We had been in that condition for many years in Myanmar due to neighbours like Thailand supporting all the insurgency. All the Myanmar opposition/ armed group are freely allowed to move in Thailand, In response we shall also allow Thaksin in Myanmar.

Julian Pienaizek Wrote:
10/12/2009
The governor of Bangkok, M.R. Sukhumbhand Paribatra, deserves the biggest hand of applause of any politician in Thailand (apart perhaps from Kraisak Choonavan, a long-time campaigner against the junta's crimes).

I can't quite believe the directness of his criticism: “a major source of regional instability is the large standing army maintained by the Myanmar [Burmese] government.”

His comments point up the gross injustice of the regime's fiscal focus; less than a few percent of budget is spent on health and education whilst at least a third and more is lavished on an army whose first priority is to crush any and all protest or dissent from the people of Burma. As a consequence the whole country is impoverished to an utterly desperate degree - no wonder millions of people have left to work overseas for their families.

Many thanks sir for these excellent words. What I find hard to understand is why we haven't heard this sort of thing from any prominent member of the government.

Dave Wrote:
10/12/2009
Leaving aside the possibility that the 'regional instability' argument could legitimise intervention, this sounds more like a pitch for an increase in financing for Thai armed forces than a criticism of Burma.

Derek Tonkin Wrote:
10/12/2009
GDP is the total market value of all goods and services produced in a country in a given year, equal to total consumer, investment and government spending, plus the value of exports, minus the value of imports.

The CIA have estimated Thai military expenditure in recent years at some 1.8% of GDP and Burmese at 2.5%. I think the CIA estimate for Burma is too low, but given Burmese gas revenues, it might be no more than 3.5% nowadays.

Sukhumbhand is also reported as saying that there are over 500,000 troops in the Burmese military compared with 430,000 in the Thai military. This could be about right, though Khin Nyunt used to tell diplomats that half the Burmese Army were labour battalions, not fighting troops, and existed mainly to garrison territory.

Sukhumbhand has overstated the likely amount of defence expenditure in terms of GDP by a factor of 10. He seems to have confused GDP with budgetary expenditure. We might ask why.

the Burman Wrote:
10/12/2009
The main reason Burma has a large standing army is because it is afraid of China. Look at the history, it's always been China the Burmese Army had to fight...whether it was under the Kokang flag or the BCCP flag.

mthwds Wrote:
09/12/2009
Funny remarks.
Actually Cambodia threatens Thai's stability and Thailand lift goods from Burma and get rich.

dm Wrote:
09/12/2009
Standing armies mean very little in today's world. Burma's standing army is also much larger than Japan's; would Paribatra suggest that the former could pose a credible threat to the latter?
Military spending is a much better indicator, but in ABSOLUTE terms, not relative ones. The CIA estimates Burma's spending is 2.1% of GDP, and Thailand 1.8. But considering their respective GDPs, Thailand spends considerably more on their military than Burma does. Thailand faces no military threat at all from Burma, and would pulverize it in the highly unlikely event of a military confrontation.

[Editor's note: we looked at the CIA World Factbook figures, which are estimates for 2005, but we think their estimate for Burma is inaccurate. This cannot be proven.]








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