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US Expects Slow Progress in Burma


By SIMON ROUGHNEEN Thursday, November 5, 2009

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Scot Marciel, the US deputy assistant secretary of state for East Asia, said in Bangkok on Thursday morning that the Burmese junta is unlikely to make any concessions anytime soon.

“We did not anticipate that one visit to Burma would resolve all the country's problems,” he said.

US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Scot Marciel answers the questions from the media during a press conference at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok on November 5. (Photo: Getty Images)

Marciel, who is US ambassador for Asean affairs, concluded his remarks, saying, “It would be very hard to see an election without Aung San Suu Kyi and the National League for Democracy [NLD] as credible.”

Marciel noted that the junta has recently dropped hints about a relaxation of Suu Kyi's house arrest. Suu Kyi is currently under 18 months house arrest and is constitutionally barred from running for office due to her marriage to a British academic.

“Ultimately,” he said, “they can either free her, or keep her locked up. They should just free her, end of story.”

Marciel accompanied Kurt Campbell, the assistant secretary of state for East Asia, who led the US delegation on its two-day visit to Burma, where it met with Aung San Suu Kyi, a variety of opposition and ethnic group leaders and Burmese Prime Minister Gen Thein Sein.

Describing the visit as “an exploratory mission, to explain our policy review and to hear from Burmese,” Marciel said he does not know why the junta wants to engage with the US at this juncture.

He repeatedly stressed that the US is not expecting immediate or linear progress. He conceded “this will take some time.” When questioned about the impact of recent arrests of aid workers and journalists in Rangoon, he said, “We are prepared for setbacks.”

Marciel reaffirmed that Washington is retaining sanctions on the junta, and reserves the right to tighten or add more in future.

He said the US would respond to any positive measure taken by the junta to free Suu Kyi and more than 2000 other political prisoners and to ensure that the 2010 elections are credible, free and fair.

Throughout his hour-long question-and-answer session with media, academia and Bangkok-based diplomats at Chulalongkorn University, Marciel reiterated his administration's view that a fully inclusive process of dialogue and national reconciliation involving government, the opposition and ethnic groups must be undertaken before the election.

“I don't see how there can be a credible election otherwise,” he said.

Asked by The Irrawaddy whether dialogue would have any impact without a review of the 2008 Constitution, Marciel agreed that the Constitution is flawed and was inaugurated after a referendum that “lacked credibility.”

However, Marciel did not say if the US would back the NLD’s request for a constitutional review, saying that the issue would be best resolved as part of a national dialogue process among Burmese.
In the Shwegondaing Declaration of 29 April, the NLD announced it will only participate in the 2010 election if Suu Kyi and all political prisoners are released, the 2008 Constitution is amended and an inclusive, free and fair general election is held under international supervision. 
Under the 2008 Constitution, the 2010 election will likely perpetuate military rule under a quasi-civilian veneer, according to legal experts.

Testifying to the US Congressional hearing on Burma held on Sept. 30, Prof David C Williams of the Center for Constitutional Democracy at Indiana University Maurer School of Law, said: “Our focus should not be on ensuring that the elections are free and fair. Instead, the focus should be on securing constitutional change, so that someday Burma might witness civilian rule.”

Marciel said there is no point discussing the finer points of the 2010 election, such as media access and the presence of international observers, before the national dialogue process takes place.

Unlike Democrat Sen Jim Webb who met Sen-Gen Than Shwe, Campbell and Marciel did not meet with the junta strongman.

“I do not know why Senator Webb met with Than Shwe and Kurt Campbell did not,” Marciel said.



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plan B Wrote:
09/11/2009
Having rights to anything entails responsibility.This is a fundamental Democratic concept.

SPDC ruthlessly took the right to govern and failed miserably to serve the citizenry.

The west claims the right to punish SPDC but refuses to dignify the responsibility that comes with that self anointed right.

No wonder Asean would rather support SPDC.
Is it time for Irrawaddy to expose this hypocrisy ?

As I recall somewhere in Bogyoke Aung San speeches he advised against glorifying any westerner as better than Burmese!


plan B Wrote:
07/11/2009
"Marciel reaffirmed that Washington is retaining sanctions on the junta, and reserves the right to tighten or add more in future."
Fair is fair, unless you are the SPDC.
Let's see:
Some one decides to tow your car without your approval from your own drive way because that someone does not like the way you treat your family. Years later that same someone added "let's talk" but still keeps the car, which now is more or less junk.

Are the West really that idiotic to think the SPDC is going to jump.
Even if the West think they are Robinson Crusoe they should know by now the SPDC, the Burmese are not Man Friday!
Taking away some one's commerce and then using as a possible reward sounds like what a mafia will do.
Talk about overbearing, self righteous hypocrites.

Garrett Wrote:
07/11/2009
Plan B is saying that we can't afford to offend the delicate sensitivities of Than Shwe.
Foreign dignitaries must receive training in the proper manner of kowtowing when in his presence, as well as in proper Than Shwe adoration by making offerings to, and meditating while kowtowing in front of the Than Shwe jade Buddha in Shwedagon Pagoda until they are certified as properly respectful by the SPDC-qualified monks within the pagoda.

Futhermore, the governments sending their dignitaries must avoid any mention of human rights offences, ethnic or religious persecution, rampant starvation & disease, political prisoners, or regional security, while at the same time pledging absolute support of corporate investments in Burma to ensure the regime won't need to spend any of its hard-earned income on developing the Burmese economy.

This is the inane crux of plan B's advocacy, that Than Shwe must be exalted as the legitimate ruler of Burma in order to move forward with meaningful engagement.

George Than Setkyar Heine Wrote:
06/11/2009
Testifying to the US Congressional hearing on Burma, Prof David C Williams said: “Our focus should not be on ensuring that the elections are free and fair. Instead, the focus should be on securing constitutional change, so that someday Burma might witness civilian rule.”

And Marciel opted to ignore the NLD’s request for a constitutional review.
However he reiterated his administration's view - a fully inclusive process of dialogue and national reconciliation involving government, the opposition and ethnic groups must be undertaken before the election.

And Campbell insisting on putting lifting sanctions on hold led Than Shwe refusomg to meet with him.

Obviously, Than Shwe wants sanctions in return for US investment to fatten his purse and remove restrictions on him and his family only.

The Ggreen light given to the Chinese next door to start laying pipelines and stepped up arrests of activists evidenced Than Shwe's decision to disengage with US and cement further ties with China no doubt.

Oo Maung Gyi Wrote:
06/11/2009
Senator Webb and Kurt Cambell went to Burma over different issues. Kurt Cambell came to Burma on an official visit as a representative of the US administration on fact finding mission for reconciliation and the release of all political prisoners including Aung San Su Kyi as first step.

It will take many steps to have both parties reach a win win situation. Both parties means US and Junta.


plan B Wrote:
06/11/2009
"I do not know why Senator Webb met with Than Shwe and Kurt Campbell did not,” Marciel said."

Marciel should know better.

1) There's a YouTube out there of him in which less than unflattering terms to describing SPDC.
2) Being part of Bush's leftovers that remind SPDC of the rhetorics such as "thugs'" and describing Burma as an outpost of tyranny and treated as such.
3) Senator Webb is an elected official Campell and Him are appointees. Why should #1 or any one in SPDC dignify their "fact finding" mission. As though allowing them the latitude of moving at will is not enough.
4) Tasting humble pie for one day is better than having your name floating in a spittoon for the past 2 decades.

Now all those Tontos, Men Fridays and Yahoos out there: how high do you want SPDC to Jump?

Maybe a red carpet at Mingaladon next time?

George Than Setkyar Heine Wrote:
06/11/2009
At the US Congressional hearing on Burma, Prof David C Williams said: “Our focus should not be on ensuring that the elections are free and fair. Instead, the focus should be on securing constitutional change, so that someday Burma might witness civilian rule.”

Should be the first and last priority for US in engaging with Than Shwe's gang.

Marciel's failure to reiterate NLD's call for constitutional review is frustrating as
well. Refusing to meet Campbell, Than Shwe bared his angst on him for insisting on putting sanctions on hold until further notice. Further, the monk murderer made it clear he preferred the Reds next door via giving green light to the Chinese to lay pipelines.

He met Webb because the US senator mentioned something about lifting sanctions only.

Campbell would be more than welcome next time if he brings US investments and better, news about lifting sanctions. Otherwise, Campbell will follow in the footsteps of that failed South Korean heading UN today.



kolorama Wrote:
05/11/2009
Webb met with Than Shwe because Than Shwe had heard Webb "hates Suu Kyi" and thought he could manipulate Webb. Webb was a "rogue negotiator" while Kurt Campbell is an official one.

Keep watching the tricky junta closely, Irrawaddy.

We are very concerned because Aung San Suu Kyi looks pale and thin.

We also want to know if Kurt Campbell and Scott Marciel could see any of the other political prisoners.

Next step will be to get Burmese junta reps come to a neutral place, maybe Thailand? for real talks.

This one is just a photo opp.

Jim O'Brien.





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